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The messages below have not been edited except for the removal of email addresses and extraneous lines. Any replies I have made to the emails are shown in italics. Some of my thoughts about vaccination can be found here.
Subject: Did you know???
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:30:53 +1000
DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO A VIRUS WHEN YOU MODIFY IT AND PLACE IT INSIDE A PROTEIN CELL THEN INJECT IT INTO THE BLOODSTREAM OF A PERSON THAT DOES NOT EVEN KNOW HOW A VIRUS WORKS, WHEN THE PROTEIN CELL IS BROKEN IT RELEASES THAT MODIFIED VIRUS AND IT WORKS THE SAME WAY, BY MULTIPLYING THE SAME WAY A VIRUS DOES. HOW DO I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I HAVE ONE OF THESE MODIFIED VIRUSES AND I CALL IT MODIFIED TETANUS , THE MEDICAL PROFESSION CALL IT RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS AND I ASK ALL RHEUMATOID SUFFERES WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD A BOOSTER OF TETANUS. IT MIGHT OF BEEN TEN YEARS AGO BUT IF I CAN FIND ONE PERSON THAT HAS GOT A RHEUMATOID AND CAN PROVE TO ME THAT THEY CONTRACTED THEIR ARTHRITIS FROM NATURAL CAUSES I WILL REST MY CASE. THE MEDICAL PROFESSION USED TO BE EASY BUT NOW BECAUSE THEY KEEP MODIFYING DIESEASE THEY KEEP MAKING NEW ONES SO WHO ARE THE SMART ONES, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WORK OUT WHAT THIER UP TO. THE NEXT THING IS WHO ON THIS FUCKING PLANET ARE GOING TO STOP THEM (THE GOVERNMENT) NO TO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED HERE. THEY WILL KEEP MODIFING DIESEASE UNTIL THESE BRIGHT SPARKS WALK OUT INTO THE REAL WORLD AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND SAY OPPS
THESE CHEMICALS THAT THEY USE IN VACCINES ARE NOT MADE FOR HUMAN TISSUE THEY ARE FUCKIN DEADLY, I KNOW I HAVE USED THEM BEFORE
ITS ABOUT TIME THE MEDICAL PROFESSION SHOULD GROW UP , OWN UP AND FUCKIN DO THINGS PROPERLY.
While I can see your need to highlight what you think are lies against vaccines, you like many others, fail to offer up studies that give conclusive evidence that inoculating children with 25mcg thimerosal in Hib, 12.5mcg in Hep b, 25mcg in the DTaP, 25mcg in the flu vaccine and 25mcg.... will do them no harm. Shouldn't such information be accompanied by your comments in order to truly convince any skeptical readers that vaccines are safe and effective? Do you know just exactly what is in each vaccine? Have you read the publications from Centers of Disease Control and Prevention and the statement made by the FDA that less than 10% of vaccine induced injuries are never reported due to gross under reporting? It's these statements that give parents valid concern on the safety of vaccines. Oh, and even more interesting, have you heard the statement made by the World Health Organization as to the fact that if thimerosal was used to inactivate the potent microorganisms in the vaccines, that the vaccines would pose even more danger? I'd be even more interested if you can provide me with studies containing conclusive evidence that thimerosal (mercury) and the pathogens in vaccines pose no risk or harm to any inoculated individual. If vaccines were 100% effective, I would consent to them. However, when my child goes into the ER on account of seizures or anaphylactic shock minutes after the last round of vaccinations (something that never happened before vaccinations), I believe I've been given cause for serious reservations. If you're in the least bit interested to review WHO's statements, I can forward their PDF file. The thimerosal table can be found at www.vaccinesafety.edu of John Hopkin's University that advocates FOR vaccines. Centers of Disease Control also makes their vaccine excipient and media list available on their site. http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/Appendices/A/Excipient.pdf
Then when you've looked through VAERS (vaccine
adverse effects reporting system https://www.fda.gov/cber/vaers/vaers.htm
) and researched the reported adverse reactions, get back in touch with
me and tell me that I have no need to be concerned of the dangers of vaccines.
If you are already aware of this information, especially that of the government's clear knowledge of vaccine induced injuries every year, then to continue labeling parents that appose vaccines as ignorant fools, is truly a statement made with false presumptions based on your own false claims in support of vaccinations. Parents who's children are included in the government VAERS statistics....the fact that they are part of such government statistics is not only proof of such a thing as danger in vaccinations, but also gives these parents all the more reason to be angry with what happened to their children. The government clearly acknowledges vaccines are not risk free. What more proof does one need other than the fact that the government set up the compensation fund? http://www.hrsa.gov/osp/vicp/monthly.htm
Who's the fool? The parents concerned or those that bash the parents for being concerned of the dangers of vaccines? What about those that insist on inoculating children after they've already been rushed to the ER minutes after the last inoculation? I would have to consider them fools, myself. And for the people, such as yourself that spit back at angry parents, who don't provide conclusive evidence in the claim that vaccines are safe and effective...my advise to you is to provide such information to your readers. I'd say to start with the information in the product inserts of each vaccine that comes with every shipment. However, maybe the information on adverse reactions documented after the inoculation of each vaccine (listed in the product insert) you'd be too afraid of finding yourself. It's there. I've read them all. Reactions, such as DEATH, are also listed in the product inserts. Such reactions, and others, are what sends inoculated children to the ER. Just because it didn't happen to your own child, in no means vaccines are irrefutably safe for everyone. VAERS is proof of that. You certainly make the implication when you discredit the warnings which you label "anti-vaccine..."
And in the case of Alan Yurko, maybe you're not aware that the doctor that performed the autopsy is reported to having made false reports in his findings? That information is not put out by the so-called "anti-vax" groups. The local paper put this out. Not the suspicion of it, but the very finding of the fact. Before calling the anti-vaccine folks, liars...maybe you should check the fatally flawed history of vaccines. You're the one advocating for the biggest lie in medical medicine, which claims that vaccines are safe and effective. If vaccines were safe and effective, then why is a portion of what parents pay for vaccines going to the congressional compensation fund?
I live in Arizona in which the statutory law states that parents don't even have to provide a shot record as long as they write and sign a statement saying they don't consent to vaccines. Yet, every school in Arizona that I've asked does not make this information available. Instead, they exclusively state the one statutory law saying that children can be excluded from school if they are not up-to-date on vaccines. The strong implication is made that vaccinations are the law and schools have the legal right to enforce them. There's two ways to tell a lie, 1-blatantly stating one and 2-not verbalizing all the facts. Who's lying? My pediatrician said that all mercury has been removed from vaccines and children are therefore no longer being inoculated with mercury. However, the product inserts say differently. Who's lying? WHO already stated they wouldn't take it out.
Having serious reservation for your words against
parents concerned of the dangers of vaccines,
VACCINES: Keeping our children from harm
or playing a game of Russian Roulette?
I have serious reservations about people who continue to lie about the dangers of thimerosal in vaccines when it has been removed from nearly all of them and all childhood vaccines are available in a mercury-free form. Kimberley pops up in several places on the web, one of which is here [A link check in early 2019 showed that that link was as missing as all those vaccine injured and killed children we get lied to about on a daily basis. It was an exlink, it had ceased to be, it had gone to the great liars cesspit in the sky. PB 19/1/2019], and she seems to believe that the Bible prohibits vaccination. Unfortunately, she doesn't seem to have read the parts where it prohibits lying. The number of lies and pieces of misinformation in her email would take me all day to answer, and she wouldn't believe me anyway, so I didn't bother to reply.
From: "Leanne McKnoulty"
Subject: Dr Mark Donohue
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:23:35 +1000
Dear Mr Bowditch
While searching for the Web site maintained by Dr Mark Donohue I came across your site ratebags.com. Normally I would not visit a site with such a ridiculous name but as I was keen to find a link to Dr Donohue's site I did.
I insist that you remove Dr Donohue's site from you list. As a medical professional myself I can assure you that he is a truely dedicated professional with benevolent and high scientific ideals who has helped many regain health and also saved lives. Have you ever suffered with CFS, MCS, ME or autoimmune disfunction and sought medical treatment? I think not. One shouldn't make judgements until you walk in another's shoes. I urge you to direct your energies into helping others in a more productive way rather than criticise what you have no real concept of.
Dr Donohoe (I assume that is the doctor Ms McKnoulty is talking about) may well have saved people's lives, even from psychosomatic illnesses like MCS, but if he gets his way with vaccinations then the numbers who will die will dwarf those saved by any individual doctor.
Subject: anti vaccine mum
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:00:34 +1000
I do not know who you people are.....but has it EVER occurred to you that you hurt peoples feelings with your comments. My daughter had to be resuscitated after having her triple vaccine as a baby. Public pressure forced me to continue with the vaccination program. After she fought for her life and survived the next vaccine, I chose not to have any further vaccines for her. I have been totally crucified over the years as a result of my decision. Have you ever held one of your children in your arms while they fought to live? I have done so.....TWICE. Unless you have been in that situation yourself....you are in no position to judge others!
Ms Dawn Winkler of Health Advocacy in the Public Interest had so much to say that it ended up on its own page.
From: "Bta Lab Computor"
Subject: Crack open a thermometer
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:31:08 -0800
and take a sip. Mercury is okay huh? Well I was looking at another one of your sites and uh....the side effects of vaccinations are present. You take a new born and vaccinate it.....and for some reason it dies of SIDS. Do some research on chem trails. When you can proove to me that the government and pharmaceutical companies are not in this for money.....your site won't seem so dumb. Are you so ignorant to the fact that these things are possible...that money makes the world go round....that pharmaceutical companies don't make money off of healthy people, they make money off the dieing and the sick. It's sad - the Flu shot is ineffective. I was told this by the Head Doctor at Children's Hospital. He said every year we try to get the right strain of what might be going around and we never get it right....well....I think that I'll take some garlic, vit C and immunity boosters oh....and drink lots of water. Welcome to survival of the fittest. Good luck and bless your family.
A concerned parent writes:
From: "genevieve searle"
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 02:13:17 +1100
I'm just wondering what happened to you to make you so vehemently self-righteous and anti-choice. Perhaps you need some psychological counselling to work through some of your issues. I have been struggling with the whole 'to vaccinate or not to vaccinate issue', it's a tough one. Interestingly however your site is pushing me in the 'not to vaccinate' direction, simply because it's so unreasonable and highly sensationalist. Thank god there are other information sources because you're not doing yourself or the pro-vaccination team any favours.
From: "genevieve searle"
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 02:10:30 +1100
I notice you haven't updated your mail receipts, please do so it's very entertaining. You seem to be very defensive, to the point of being aggressive. Are you ok? would you like some counselling hotline numbers? My mum is a psychologist I'm sure she'd be happy to talk to you. You do believe that psychology is a worthy profession don't you? I'm sure you do.
I was also just wondering if you could tell me the recommended dose of the following substances, to inject directly into your infants blood stream; Mercury, Formaldehyde, aluminium compounds, carbolic acid, ant killer, methanol, acetone, disinfectant, glycerine, antifreeze, MSG, contaminant animal viruses (e.g. SV40), animal organ tissue, aborted human foetus cells, mutated human viruses, latex, GM yeast and my favourite animal, bacterial and viral DNA.
Thank you I'll be awaiting your response.
Dear Ms Searle
I am sorry that you were disappointed by my not-so-immediate response, but I do not update my web site to your schedule. If you are so desperate to see your name on a screen, you should start a blog where you can update the pages whenever you feel like it. Alternatively, if you want me to work for you I invite you to apply your awesome research skills to locating my business web site, where you can find a form to fill out (including your credit card number) in order to purchase my time.
Of course I think that psychology is a "worthy profession". I would not have studied it for so long at university if I didn't think so. My area of study was the way that people can come to absurd conclusions by employing premises which are obviously wrong (in some cases ridiculously wrong). An example would be for someone to reject vaccination because they believed that vaccines contain the cells of aborted foetuses. As there is no possibility of the premise being correct, any conclusion drawn from it must be flawed. Oh, sorry, I just noticed ...
Some people would be surprised at how you descended from cautious mother looking for answers to full-blown anti-vaccination liar in only two days, but I have been observing the species for long enough that I have come to expect this sort of thing. Being disingenuous, which is pretending to be looking for information when you think you already know the answer, is a form of deceit, but I am sure you are aware of that.
By the way, you left one very important item out of the list of things which are not in vaccines. You forgot the monkey pus. You should never forget the monkey pus. No list of lies about vaccine components is complete without it. Because of this omission I can only award you a B- for your effort. Please try harder next time.
Subject: Your web site
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:47:43 -0800
Your site does more to help the anti vaccine movement than to stop it!
Your questions asked to the anti vaccine people were answered with sound logical answers, but you look like an idiot.
They were answered with the combination of arrogance, bigotry, ignorance and delusion that I have come to expect from anti-vaccination liars. What are your answers to the questions? To make it easy for you, here they are:
1. Of the vaccines in the current schedule, which ones do you believe can safely be given to children?
2. Of the vaccines in the current schedule, which ones do you believe provide protection against disease?
3. If a new vaccine could be produced tomorrow against a fatal or disabling disease, which disease would you like it to prevent?
4. Do you believe that the benefits of any vaccine currently in use outweigh the risks associated with it?
5. What would it take to convince you that the benefits of a vaccine outweigh the risks?
6. I have been told that homeopathy can be used to "reverse vaccine damage". As homeopathy is essentially distilled water, how can this work?
7. AIDS kills millions of people each year, but so far no vaccine has been developed. Do you believe that research into an AIDS vaccine should continue?
8. I have read about a man called Alan Yurko who is in prison in Florida for murdering a child. The evidence against him looks convincing and he has a criminal record for violent crimes. People are saying that the baby died from vaccine damage, not from being shaken. Do you think Alan Yurko is innocent? Why do you think this?
(Yes, I know that Yurko is no longer in Florida and is now in prison in Ohio, but I wanted to leave the questions the same. The fact of the baby's death has not changed.)
9. Dr Andrew Wakefield looked at a small number of autistic children whose parents believed that they had been made autistic by vaccination and found what he believes is a connection between MMR and autism. Very large studies examining the records of millions of children do not suggest any connection other than a coincidence of timing. Could Dr Wakefield be wrong?
10. Of all the vaccines currently given to children, which do you think has saved the most lives?
I have researched vaccines for the last 25 years and vaccines represent an assault on the human immune system...need to be stopped. The American Physicians Association called for a halt on all vaccines in 2000.
I assume that would be the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. Of course AAPS would say that, as Dr Jane Orient is one of the most high-profile anti-vaccination liars. I know that she says that she is in favour of vaccines, but that is only as long as those vaccines are not given to anybody of any age at any time against any disease. If you want to impress me you will have to come up with a real medical association which opposes vaccination, not a pack of loons led by a woman whose grasp of arithmetic and reality is so tenuous that she once told me that an occurrence rate of three in ten thousand is thirty times a rate of one in five thousand.
Apparently, you are fully vaccinated and not thinking sane!
Are you suggesting that vaccination causes insanity? I have never heard that before, but I am not surprised.
You do not show one stitch of proof that these lethal shots are safe or effective.
There is plenty of evidence for safety and you only have to look around at the live children to see that they are effective. I realise that your prejudices prevent you from seeing the truth, but that doesn't stop the truth from existing. Your use of idiotic terms like "lethal shots" just illustrates how out of touch with reality you are.
Your just trying to blast those who think differently than you and you look like a fool.
I have no problem with people who think differently from me. Unless of course that difference leads them to try to talk parents out of caring for their children. When the difference can lead to the deaths of not a few but millions of children then, like all sane people, I have both the right and the duty to "blast" them.
Keep up the good work!!!
Thank you. I intend to do so until the last anti-vaccination liar is poisoned by the last laetrile salesman.
P.S. Those kids with chicken pox look happy and are much healthier now...Congratulations to the parents.
And you know this how? I didn't identify the children on my site, so for all you know they might all be dead by now. This is quite possible, as the parents you congratulate might have been just as pleased if the children caught pertussis, diphtheria or meningococcal disease.
VACCINE RESEARCHER AND LECTURER Helping Parents make fully informed vaccine decisions. MaryTocco Director of Vaccine Research and Education for Michigan Opposing Mandatory Vaccines President of The Autism AutoImmunity Project of Michigan
If autism is an autoimmune disease, how is it caused by vaccinations? If vaccinations wreck the immune system, how can it come back strong enough to attack the body itself? Is autism caused by mercury, as claimed by Professor Boyd Haley, by measles virus entering the gut as claimed by Dr Andrew Wakefield, or by pasteurised milk as stated on Dr Joseph Mercola's web site?
Oh, now I get it. You make your living telling lies about vaccination. How much do you charge to lie to a roomful of parents? Is it a good living?
I especially liked the way that you have declared yourself a "World Class Person". That takes real class to do something like that. The million-plus visitors is also a nice touch, but I can forgive you for that as the truth is not expected from you.
As is my normal policy, your email and my reply will be published on my web site.
From: "Bobbi Ashworth"
Subject: A letter from a reader.
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:34:49 -0700
I read over your Christine Coleback story, shown to me by my friend good friend Vincent. And I'd like to please ask you a favor.
Do not feel any negativity torwards Mrs. Colebeck for what has gone on. I do not know her well enough to tell you why she went on to get vaccinations for her son after what happened to her daughter Laura, but I do know that the chances of her doing it just for money are minimal.
I never said that she had her son vaccinated for money. I said that she was using her son's Aspergers Syndrome to get money. She is also using it to gain publicity for her anti-vaccine campaign, just as she is exploiting her daughter's death for the same purpose.
And that information from her 'sister' (I'm not sure it's her sister), she mentions her 'six' children, all from different fathers, which is extremely incorrect. I will not say how many, since it is not my place to tell, but there are less than six children, and the different father thing is not true.
I have modified my comments about the "sister's" email. The only reason I published it in the first place is that I couldn't work out why anyone would say such things when there were far more effective ways of revealing Ms Colebeck's dishonesty, such as pointing to the obvious lies she tells about the paediatrician's response to the SIDS death of the daughter.
I hope you realize the point of this letter is only to ask you to please think of Christine in a positive way.
I'm sorry, but it is impossible to think anything positive about someone who lies about the circumstances surrounding their daughter's death in order to advance an anti-vaccine agenda.
She was only doing what she thought was best for someone, possibly just herself, but you have to admit that is better than complete apathy.
One of the outstanding characteristics of the anti-vaccine campaigners is the absolute selfishness they display, where no children other than their own matter. I would prefer apathy to an active support of an ideology which, if successful, can only result in the death or disability of an enormous number of children.
I know she is a nice woman for a fact, as is the rest of her family. Especially her oldest son.
With all due respect,
You can see the context for this email here.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:53:47 +1000
Subject: (no subject)
If chicken pox is a form of child abuse and your child had chicken pox then you shouldn't even have your own child coming from your perspective. That's crazy. Maybe you should think about what you talk about, especially when you don't know much about the subject your talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't say that chicken pox is a form of child abuse. Perhaps if you read what I wrote you would know what you are talking about
You can see the context for this email here.
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:26:07 -0700
From: angel roschele
Subject: child abuse
i think you're full of shit. I ran across your site while doing a report on child abuse. I do not mistake chicken pox for child abuse. It is not abuse to let a child go sick with a disease as long as that child isn't suffering. WITH the vaccine or not there is still a change a child COULD contract the pox. And believe it or not a child will still suffer whether or not he had the vaccine or not. So who the fuck are you to say that there parents are proud of their child's sickness! You need to wake up and smell the dog shit cause honey, you're full of beans. Until you know facts....you need to not be running your mouth or a site because all you do is create conflict and drama.
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You can see the context for this email here.
On August 3, 2005, I wrote a kind and gentle email to The Autism Autoimmunity Project in response to one of their many acts of deception. TAAP asked their supporters to write to me. Here are those emails. Not one of these people bothered to come to this site to read anything else I had ever said about vaccinations. And how do I know this? Because they all used the form of email address (with a capital letter) suggested by TAAP.
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 12:57:12 -0700
From: John Brooks
Subject: IGNORANCE AND OR TOTAL STUPIDITY
IGNORANCE IS BLESSED---YOU ARE EITHER TOTALLY IGNORANT OR A MEMBER OF THE PHARMA COMMUNITY. IN EITHER CASE, YOU AND YOUR KIND ARE NOT TOUCHING MY KIDS OR MY GRANDKIDS. NOT ONE VACCINE HAS EVER BEEN PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE---THEY CAUSE PROBLEMS, THEY DON'T SOLVE PROBLEMS!!!
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 07:48:57 +1000
Subject: Mr. Bowditch...
Mr Bowditch, I am the parent of a child with autism and i belong to several listservs to keep informed of new treatments and research, support etc.
I received an email in which your attack on TAAP was outlined....Im not sure who you are or if youve ever encountered an autistic child (vaccine-injured or otherwise). If you spent one day in the life of a parent with an autistic child a child you witnessed regression immediately following vaccinations (each vaccination with a worse reaction in the succession of the schedule that the pediatricians across the country INSIST we follow or we will endanger our children) perhaps not enough evidence is collected yet to justify the claim that vaccines themselves are wholly or partly responsible or maybe youre not even interested in the causes of autism. Perhaps your children are all healthy and i do hope that they are...perhaps you will never have to deal with what we parents of autistic children will have to deal with. These people you are calling "liars" and "child-haters" are the EXACT OPPOSITE of the labels you have slandered them with. I love my children with all of my being...as im sure both April Oakes and Greg Ciola and Alan Yurko and countless others working to get the word out to educate parents as to the exact contents of childrens vaccinations. As for a parent who has lost 2 children, I can only speak from my own personal experience there is no deeper pain in human experience...than losing a child, I have lost 2 beautiful little girls in the past and i fight everyday the fear of losing one of my boys....To attack any parent who is working so selflessly and with righteous conviction to prevent other parents (and their children) from similar pain....Is contemptible Mr Bowditch. You cite biblical phrases in your slanderous email or article or whatever it was...How dare you? How do you sleep at night? I am a christian woman and i will pray that the Lord shine a light of understanding and compassion on you. I pray that you gain understanding of the real TRUTH and see that these parents that are behind this organization TAAP are working hard to educate the public to the dangers of "following blindly like sheep and injecting their beloved infants with TOXINS at levels exceeding the safe standards for anything ANYLIVINGTHING under 500 LBS."
Kathleen Grylls / FL/ mom to 3 awesome boys.
Subject: Talking to the liars at TAAP, 8/3/05
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:35:20 -0400
Mr. Peter Bowditch,
Your stances as described in, Talking to the liars at TAAP, 8/3/05, expose you as a demagogue of medicine and society. You seem to worship the same profession and scientific method that systemically exclude anything that it cannot claim to have incepted. If the world relied upon you and your false opinions we would have all died off long ago. You prefer to pump unproven drugs, viruses, toxins, and chemicals into the human race simply because the conspiring for profit corporations and enterprises that have nepotistic relationships with facilities have told you they are safe.
You prefer chemical poisons with unknown long term effects. You fail to even recognize the prevalent medical problems these kids have as having anything to do with their conditions. Your paradigm excludes children with autism. You should be ashamed.
My two children with autism are vaccine-injured and they both suffer life-threatening illnesses to horrific extremes. In ways you could not possible imagine. How DARE you dismiss their needless agonies. How DARE you reject ALL children and families suffering at the hands of our pharma, medical association, and government.
Parents know their children better than you or any other. You and the system from which you were born violate trust. You need to educate yourself to the scientific EVIDENCE and open your eyes to the reality in which so many children suffer, THOUSANDS of innocent children suffer. Get in touch with the literature and stop attacking respected organizations such as TAAP.
You are corrupt. You are ignorant. Yet you claim objectivity and knowledge.
Your careless remarks are liable to prompt parents to avoid researching the facts. I'm sure you'd rather drug all of these children. Not mine.
Wake up. You should be ashamed.
Sincerely, Barbara Labrecque
PARENTS TO: *JONNY ~ AUTISTIC ENTEROCOLITIS, ORGAN DISEASE, GI/BOWEL DISEASE, "LNH", METABOLIC DISEASE, "CYSTEINE" DISORDER, IMMUNE DYSFUNCTION, ALLERGIC GASTROENTERITIS, MITOCHONDRIAL DISEASE, OCD & ANXIETY, POST-VACCINE ENCEPHALOPATHY DAMAGES *SIERRA ~ PDD-NOS (DEVELOPMENTAL DAMAGES), AUTISTIC ENTEROCOLITIS, APRAXIA, AUTOIMMUNE ENTEROCOLITIS, ORGAN DISEASE, GI/BOWEL DISEASE, "LNH", METABOLIC DISEASE, "CYSTEINE" DISORDER, IMMUNE DYSFUNCTION, ALLERGIC GASTROENTERITIS, ALLERGIC ENTEROPATHY, PROTEIN-LOSS ENTEROPATHY, POST-VACCINE ENCEPHALOPATHY DAMAGES, SURVIVES ON A FEEDING MACHINE
Barbara H Labrecque firstname.lastname@example.org UA--NY State Representative www.unlockingautism.org ANDI Representative www.autismndi.com ARI ~ www.autism.com/ari/ ICDRC ~ www.icdrc.org NVIC ~ www.nvic.org Vaccine Injury Alliance ~ www.vaccineinjury.org/ 1-888-709-6674 SUPPORT TAAP www.TAAP.info Know the cause... find AND fund the cure! "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 'GENETIC' EPIDEMIC"
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:07:47 -0700
I am most grateful for the diligent and focused
work of the Autism Autoimmunity Project, specifically that of April Oakes.
Your commentary is unprofessional and fortunately I think that you are quite
transparent in your personal mission to discredit anyone involved in the
vaccine/autism issue--so most thinking people will write you off. I felt
I must write you, however, because I am concerned that you use our Holy
Scriptures in your effort to slander April personally. You might find it
interesting to learn that April's unwavering faith in Jesus Christ was
influential in my coming to know the Lord personally several years ago.
After only a few brief conversations with her about TAAP, her outspoken
dependence on God made a huge impression on me. Losing a child is something
you and I could never understand, yet April conveyed a peace and strength
that God used to speak very clearly to me about what I was missing in my
spiritual walk. Perhaps you didn't know this about April, but I know
she has reached countless people with her testimony. Autism aside, when
the smoke clears, I have a child with high viral titers and heavy metal
burden. I am thankful for the research funded for TAAP because his health
would greatly benefit from fixing these problems. You can argue about the
cause, but you can't dispute his labwork and the thousands of other
children who share the same profile. Allow us to help our children in peace
and pray about who the real enemy is here.
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 16:36:05 +0200
From: Andrew Christensen
Subject: Your e.mail to TAAP
Dear Mr Bowditch
Wow... I really am interested in how/why you have reached the conclusions stated in your e.mail "assassination" of TAAP.
From a distance, and writing only as an interested parent of a young child, I can only draw my own conclusions based upon my own experience - an experience that has led me to believe that there is a serious problem with vaccinations, and that this problem is being ignored, possibly intentionally, by various health authorities around the world.
One of the few beacons of intelligent light into this unfolding tragedy comes from TAAP - so what is your axe against them??
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 11:04:39 -0500
UNTIL YOU HAVE WALKED A MILE IN MY SHOES AND BEEN THROUGH WHAT MY FAMILY HAS BEEN THROUGH YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO EVEN GO DOWN THIS ROAD. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS IF ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TO DOWN PEOPLE FOR TRYING TO LIGHT A FIRE UNDER THE GOVENMENTS ASS TO ADMIT THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS POISONING OF OUR CHILDREN. I WISH YOU COULD HAVE BEEN AROUND TO WATCH MY THEN 2 YEAR OLD SON THROW UP EVERYTHING THAT HE ATE OR DRANK FOR A MINIMIUM OF A MONTH. HIS SKIN COLOR TURNED TO PALE WHITE NORMALLY AN OLIVE COLOR. HE STOPPED TALKING COMPLETELY AND STARTED DOING OFF THE WALL THINGS PLUS A WHOLE LOT MORE THEN I CARE TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. SO GET OFF OF TAPP AND FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THIS INTENTIONAL POISONING OF OUR CHILDREN HAS AFFECTED OUR LIVES. SO GET OFF YOU SOAP BOX BUDDY AND GET A LIFE. SHEILA MOTHER OF 8 YR. OLD AUTISTIC SON
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 15:50:40 -0500
From: Joan Taylor
I have read your scorching letter attacking TAAP because they provide documented scientific information about vaccines and their effects to the public.
I would like to know the scientific data upon which you base your beliefs about vaccines currently in use, and their effects on a child.
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 17:25:11 -0700
From: Rosanne Achin
Subject: TAAP and vaccines
Johns Hopkins and others have published studies showing that autism is an autoimmune disease. Look it up.
Are you stupid enough to think that vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system, and that they can't affect or damage the immune system? Even the fed. govt. admits that some kids die of vaccination - that's why we have to sign the forms... Duhhh.
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 02:11:58 +1000
As the mother of two once perfectly healthy kids who happened to love tuna and ate too much of it ten years ago, I consider Dr. Haley a godsend, while you sir, are a biochemical idiot. It took us 5 years to get out from under the medical bills caused by the hypersensitivity to metals like mercury, and my eldest daughter will be a mad hatter requiring medication to survive for the rest of her life. If not for people like Dr. Haley, my doctor and I would never have figured out the mercury problem. My doctor agrees with me and Dr. Haley that my kids should never be injected with thimerosal-containing vaccines, so we have located vaccines without it. Get a clue!
I hope you didn't spend more than one second looking for the thimerosal-free vaccines, because that is how long it takes to locate them. Thimerosal was removed from vaccines years ago.
Get a clue.
Haley is an idiot.
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:24:28 +1000
Subject: Re: Mercury
My doctor had to special order thimerosal-free tetanus vaccine because she only had vaccine with thimerosal on hand. Every year millions of elderly patients are receiving flu shots that still contain thimerosal. Many pediatricians are still using up their stock of old thimerosal-containing vaccines. Thimerosal was removed from most children's vaccines in the US only after heroes like Dr. Haley proved their mercury case to authorities. This was 20 years after Russia and most of Europe had banned its use in vaccines, and 15 years after it was banned for use in animals here in the US. I object to an idiot like you, clearly without any advanced scientific knowledge, calling someone that possibly saved my children's life and health, an idiot. You ARE the IDIOT.
I give up. It is useless arguing with fools.
From: "curtis tocco"
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:05:50 -0700
Hi, i would like to say that you are the most arrogant son of a bitch i have ever incountered. If you would take the time to RESEARCH vaccinations you would see that they contain nero toxins, thats a FACT not some biased bullshit like what you write. FACT ,The levels of nero toxins in vaccines is 100 to 1000's of times the FDA safety level. FACT, if you put nero toxins in a new born baby who hasnt fully developed his brain SHIT HAPPENS. There in it for the money, they dont care if it hurts people. Also mary tocco is the best vaccination researcher out there, if you visit her website you see that she is not bias in anyway, its documented facts. Now maybe you would like to think that your little world is perfect, but it think its time for a reallity check. Go visit marytocco.com and email me back with these "biased" phrases, i would like to see them.
Thank you for your considered criticism. I can't help noticing that you share a surname with the despicable Mary Tocco. You have my greatest sympathy. If I had a burden like that I would change my name and move to another city.
Another thing - I notice that you mention "nero toxins". Are these like the poison that Agrippina used to kill Claudius so that Nero could become Emperor of Rome in 54AD?
From: "curt tocco"
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:21:54 -0700
Ha ha. Your just some fuckin loser that couldn't sell his shit to tabloids so he fuckin made a website and put respectable people's names on it so he could get in the search engine results. Do yourself and all of us a favor, and the next time your on a bridge or a roof and the thought to jump off comes to your mind DO IT.
Thank you for your comments. They have been passed on to the appropriate person in my organisation so that they can be suitably amused.
I notice that you refer to "respectable people" mentioned on my web site. I hope that you don't include disgusting child-haters like Mary Tocco, because nobody could ever call her "respectable". The word could hardly be applied to someone who makes a living lying to parents and encouraging them to place their children in harm's way. I must reiterate my sympathy with you for sharing part of your name with this disgusting person.
Have a nice day. The thousands of children who die today from vaccine-preventable diseases won't have that opportunity.
From: "curt tocco"
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:49:04 -0700
i dont authorize you to put my email anywhere on any website, that was a personal email.
Yes you did. You sent it to me.
Email republication policy
The policy here is to reproduce any critical emails sent to any email address associated with me or this site, and also to reproduce any critical discussion of me or my activities which I see or become aware of on mailing lists, Usenet newsgroups or any other outlets in any form of media. The solution is simple for anyone who does not want to see their words published here - be quiet.
From: "curt tocco"
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:34:55 -0700
Nope i never agreed to any contract saying that the emails will go on the website
Whether you read the disclaimer or not is irrelevant. The site policy is quite clear, and it has not changed in the six years that the site has been on line.
and by doing so you are commiting acts of plagiarism.
Reproduction of a personal communication is not plagiarism.
In the case that you do this i will contact your webhost and have your website deleted.
Have a nice day. Abubakar Tariq Nadama won't be able to do that, because his mother believed anti-vaccination liars like Mary Tocco and now he's dead.
From: "curt tocco"
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:44:57 -0700
lol,Well he probably would have died sooner if he had gotten vaccines.
At that point I had to give up. Anyone who can use the abbreviation "LOL", which means "laughing out loud", to express their feelings about a dead child is so deranged that any attempt at conversation could only be seen as teasing someone who should be in a mental hospital receiving treatment.
Curtis Tocco shared the Quote of the Year award in the 2005 Millenium Awards.
You can see more about the demented professional anti-vaccination liar Mary Tocco here.
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:17:02 -0700
From: misty h
Subject: how could u
I THINK YOUR WHOLE LINE OF IT BEING CHILD ABUSE IS ABOUT FAR FECTCHED AS THE PARENTS HAVEING ALLOWED THESE CHILDREN TO CATCH THE CHICKEN POX. WHAT AN IDIOT U ARE. THE INTERNET HAS BECOME A BOOK OF KNOWLEDGE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN TO THE DOCTOR OVER EVERY LITTLE COUGH OR SPOT. SOME OF US DON'T HAVE MEDICAL INSURANCE AND HAVE TO PICK WHEN TO GO AND WHEN NOT GO, AND THEN PRAY THAT WE PICKED RIGHT. SO GOT TO HELL. I THANK THE PARTENTS WHO HAVE PUT THE PICTURES ON SITE. WHEN I THOUGHT THE MY CHILDREN HAD CONTACTED THE CHICKEN POX THE FIRST PLACE I TURNED TO WAS MY COMPUTER, AND PHONED THE DOCTOR. BETWEEN THE DOCTOR AND THE PICTURES I HAD THE INFORMATION. WHICH MEANS INFORMATION = POWER I KNEW THEN HOW TO HANDLE IT. IF U GET YOUR SICK KICKS FROM LOOKING AT THE PHOTOS FOR MORE THEN WHAT THEY ARE INTENDED FOR THEN STAY OFF THE SITE AND LET THE PARENTS USE IT FOR THE PURPOSE IT WAS INTENDED FOR.... INFORMATION, KNOWLEDGE, AND POWER.
You can see what the writer was shouting about here.
Dear Mr. Bowditch,
Do you realize that you are cruelly exploiting children, a 4 year old and 6 year old, who both suffer a terminal diagnosis with PROVEN vaccine injuries? Do you feel that it is appropriate to ridicule families with dying, severely damaged, and already dead children? Does it make you feel more like a man to harp on innocent, defenseless children and babies? Do you enjoy laughing at dead children?
For ANYONE to disrespect a child's death and horrific medical suffering is just down right INHUMANE! I pity you. May God help you.
I spoke to my lawyer today and he advised me that it is ILLEGAL for you to represent my children in such a distasteful manner on your website, especially considering their life-threatening situation. Additionally, you took it upon yourself to post my personal information on your website as well, including my phone number. No one at TAAP authorized these actions, I most certainly did not. Not one person that wrote you on a "personal level" gave you the consent to publicize any of those letters. My lawyer advised me to inform you that if you do NOT remove my information I will sue you for exploiting children in such a distasteful regard, pain and suffering.
I expect to see these the necessary changes made as soon as possible.
Regards, Barbara Labrecque
You call me corrupt and ignorant and you expect privacy? You support the filth who want to deny life-saving vaccinations to children and you say that I should be ashamed? You lie to the parents of autistic children and actively work against finding the cause of this distressing condition and you expect me to respect you?
You brought your children into this, not me. You chose to exploit your children to progress an insane agenda against vaccination. Your choice. Your fault.
I have removed your telephone number. If you don't want people to know it, don't hand it out. I expect you to write to the Road to Detroit blog (where you used exactly the same sig file as you did when you emailed me), the US Department of Agriculture (same sig again), the Secrets_Revealed mailing list at Yahoo!, the Autism Meetup group, the Amalgam Archives and Onibasu.com. Tell them to stop displaying your telephone number. Tell them how you included it in your sig file. Hypocrite.
If you don't want to see your words published, don't write.
And what happened to Greg Ciola? First he was nobody except an interviewer, then he was the Vice President, now he's gone again.
Have a nice day. The many thousands of children who died today from vaccine-preventable diseases won't be able to do that. Not that you would care about them. They aren't your children.
When I mentioned that child-killer and anti-vaccination hero Alan Yurko was again having trouble with the law the following came in:
From: "Caroline Stuard"
Subject: alan yurko
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:51:18 -0700
Mr. Bowditch: I am an old friend of Alan Yurko . you stated that Alan was detained for drug possession, and burglary. Do you have any proof to show me? I need to know. If it is not true you will be sued for slander. You caused that family enough pain. If you have the proof or numbers I can call, let me know…
I see that you read about this on the Millenium Project Blog, which is often an abbreviated copy of what appears on the main site. Had you read the main site you would have seen that the Case Number in the Cuyahoga Common Pleas Court for the drug possession charge is CR-05-473467-G. The arrest took place on September 21, 2005.
By the way, it is usually considered unwise to threaten legal action in the first communication, especially if the wrong offence is mentioned (slander is spoken, the written form is libel), but as you did it the threat has been added to the collection of vacuous legal threats which I have received over the years.
From: "allan munro"
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 13:53:23 +0800
I have just read your website and was completely dismayed at such utter nonsensical gibberish. If you had done your research properly you would be aware that vaccinations are extremely dangerous. The AIDS epidemic is due to the vaccinations. Vaccines are known to contain monkeys, birds, dogs, mercury, aluminium, the HIV virus and numerous other contaminents. MMR can cause autism and DPT can cause cot death. Stop spreading disinformation. Spread the facts. You moan about the liars who have legitimate concerns about vaccines. I think you are the one who is lying. Either you are poorly read or you have a hidden agenda to persuade ignorant people that vaccines are beneficial.
Congratulations. You have managed to fit more lies about vaccination into fewer words than almost anybody who has ever written to me before.
I cannot award you full marks however, because you used the unqualified word "monkeys". They don't put the whole monkey in, just the kidneys and pus. Never forget the monkey pus.
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:01:05 +0800
Your introduction almost sounds like a "Cult" like paragraph.... What garbage that parents should go to hell if they dont immunise.
Do you have a problem with the English language? It is the people who oppose vaccination and want to deceive parents into not immunising their children who should burn in Hell. I don't blame the people who are deceived - I blame the deceivers.
How closed and uneducated that sounds. How about educating yourself about both sides instead of condemning parents who dont do what you say they should do....
I have educated myself about both sides. One side offers protection for children against deadly and disabling diseases. The other side wants children to suffer needlessly from things which are preventable. I can only assume that many of the anti-vaccination liars hate children so much that they get sexual pleasure from the thought of children dying.
Cant believe you actually ask for donations.... I would donate to you if you paid me too.... How about trying an open minded approach instead of winding people up... !!!!!!
I have an open mind. The people who lie about the non-existent dangers of vaccination don't have minds to be open. Their brains obviously fell out years ago. Did I mention that there should be a special place in Hell for them?
From: "allan munro"
Subject: my comments on your website
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:19:14 +0800
I presume you work for the pharmaceutical companies. I cannot think of any other reason you would have to publish such utter nonsense on your website. Who are you trying to convince? Vaccines are dangerous and many people are wakening up to the facts. Autism, SIDS, Asthma, ADHD and the list goes on. And why the anger? Why be so angry with people who choose not to vaccinate and to put their children's health first. You are an arrogant misinformed liar!!!
I suppose you must get a lot of emails from people who disagree with your mindless gibberish. How we laughed at your pathetic website after the initial anger. You do children a great disservice. You dumb lying arrogant misinformed nonsensical rambling idiotic fool
If you cared about people you would take your website off the internet. It's useless crap!
Allan was probably not satisfied by my reply when he wrote in May, so I don't think I will reply this time at all.
From: "brendan moore"
Subject: Anti-Vaccine Liars
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:56:32 +0000
So. I totally agree with you that some people are INSANE because they don't want people to inject kids and children with heavy metals and highly toxic preservatives straight into their bloodstream
As vaccines are not injected "straight into their bloodstream", nobody is insane for not wanting it. What is insane is fighting against vaccination.
so a dead or weakened virus can be recognized and destroyed when a live one comes around. That's good logic.
No, it's not. In fact, the opposite is what happens.
Cause we can completely ignore the fact that they obviously cause severe neurological disease and disable children.
We couldn't ignore it if it was a fact, but as it isn't we can.
But hey, at least they protect us from contracting the virus, so naturally everything is alright. Oh wait, silly me they don't even do that. Historically, take a quick gander at when the said vaccines are introduced into the public and the cases of the virus in relation. Any idiot could look at the pattern and conclude there is no relationship in the introduction of vaccines and the downfall of the viruses.
So you are about to tell me about somewhere where the incidence of a disease rose after vaccination was introduced. Any country, any vaccine. Come on, surely you have some evidence to back up your claim. Please don't repeat the often-discredited idiocy about measles deaths declining before the vaccine was introduced. That has been answered so many times that only someone deliberately trying to be deceptive still pulls it out.
While we're back in the past reviewing introduction of vaccines and illnesses, why don't we look at asthma, adhd, sids. To name a few. So they've gone up, as vaccines have been mass administered.
SIDS has gone down, but don't let the facts interfere with your ideology.
Again, these relationships aren't, "Wow that's a neat coincidence but obviously it doesn't mean anything." Your struggle to please yourself with bullshit jargon and claims we don't know anything about science is pathetic.
I don't think that the anti-vaccination liars "don't know anything about science". I think they know about science but choose to tell lies. That is not the same thing.
Grow a pair, and let the adults discuss things you don't understand.
I have a pair, and unlike those of the kids whom you would like to see with mumps, they work.
From: "sherrilee day"
Subject: loving parents of children with chickenpox..
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:46:18 +1030
YOU REALLY DO SOUND LIKE AN IGNORANT MORON. EITHER YOU ARE IN BED WITH THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES OR HAVE JUST NOT GOTTEN OVER YOUR FLU SYMPTOMS AND SPOTS . I ALONG WITH MANY OTHER PEOPLE THINK MAYBE YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR THOUGHTS TO YOURSELF AS THEY DO NOT COUNT FOR MUCH AT ALL,OTHER THAN TO INSULT WELL MEANING LOVING PARENTS. YES! I HAVE READ YOUR LETTER AND I STILL SAY YOU ARE CALLING PARENTS CHILD ABUSERS FOR NOT IMMUNIZING THEIR CHILDREN. HAVE YOU NOT BEEN TOLD OF THE SIDE AFFECTS OF THESE VACCINES? I AM PICTURING YOU WITH BLACK EYES AND A PERMANENT FROWN. YOU NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME IN A DAY SPA AND TRY TO ACCEPT NATURES CIRCLE OF LIFE!
I think this email is referring to this case of child abuse.
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:34:14 +1000
Just wanted to say that the article I read on parents allowing their children to contract chicken pocks being child abuse is the most riddiculous thing I have ever heard in my life!
It was nothing but shit stirring, as if any parent is going to take on the words of some deluded moron!
Unfortunately, some parents are only too ready "to take on the words of some deluded moron", which is why they are deceived by the anti-vaccination liars. Many of the liars, however, while being morons, are not deluded - they are venally and deliberately evil.
If I was you I would just give up and stop being such a dickhead!!!
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:14:14 -0700
From: JOE HARRIS'
Subject: Fwd: Dare to take on a dad of a mercury poisoned child on the true science
You never answer questions you just spout the pharma line. You are really not very smart or you are paid to defend thimerosal and keep us busy and lie to other people. You really need to think of judgement day and how you sold these little children out and what the god of the jews the lord jesus will do to you for the damage done by people like you. One more time looking for an answer if the MSDS sheet says pregnant women should not be exposed to the product thimerosal. Then maybe you can tell me how the CDC recomends two flu vacc. containing 25 micro grams each for preg. women ? ? ? ? ? are you really this stupid ?
Note: forwarded message attached.
As the CDC recommends annual shots for everyone except children between 6 months and 9 years who have had a maximum of one shot before, Joe must live somewhere where either girls are having babies before they are nine or pregnancies last more than a year (or both). I wonder which planet that is.
From: "Don Conner"
Subject: subjectivism is you.
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:21:30 -0600
I really don't know how you can pretend to have informed opinion and hold a regular job. In choosing a research project such as vaccination and its perceived benefits or lack there of, I have spent 13 years of in depth analysis. I can say that the methodologies used to factor statistical information have left me with the determination that I have neither the time or the money to pretend to have a fully informed opinion of whether vaccination is useful or not. My opinion is not to name call and denigrate those whose beliefs are either for or against, but rather present arguments for examination from both groups and let the viewer or reader decide for themselves. At the other end of that pointing finger there are three pointing back at you. My subjective opinion of your site, It sucks big wind. My objective opinion of your site. The author(s) and compiler(s) suffer(s) from a major case of megalomania. Remember all perception is projection. No, is it the other way around? I'll leave that to the deciders, you and George Bush.
Live Love, be well and prosper
I am called through Christ's Love to be dedicated in partnering with you, to respond to your highest and greatest good, at your level of intent, for the purposes of achieving maximum well being for Spirit, mind and body.
Speaking of megalomania, the writer include the following quotation at the bottom of his message:
"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland."
- Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany
I think it's time to declare Godwin. I have no idea why anybody would think that this quote is in any way appropriate to a discussion of the pros and cons of vaccination (or anything else for that matter). It does mean, however, that it would be a waste of time to try to engage the correspondent in debate.
Subject: Your anti-vaccine emails
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 11:25:26 -0400
I just wanted to say thank you for leaving the emails up that I sent you back in 1999 and 2000, the funny thing is, here we are in 2008 after my initial challenge to you, and you are still unable to provide any proof yet.
Of course your emails are still up there. Why would I want to remove evidence of your stupidity, ignorance of and resistance to facts, and your dislike (perhaps hatred) of children? I particularly like the way you emailed me (using what was obviously my email address) to tell me that I worked for me. A better example of stupidity would be hard to find.
Let me refresh your memory: I challenge you NOW to show me REAL proof that vaccines are totally safe and totally effective. Prove to me my daughter didn't die from vaccines. Prove to me that the thousands of reported reactions to vaccines are from something other than vaccines. Prove to me you know something about vaccines, or the dangers, etc..
I am not surprised that even all these years later, I am still waiting to hear back from you with any evidence or proof.
What would be the point? As I said above, you wouldn't recognise a fact if it bit you on your extensive and ever-widening posterior.
I am conducting research into the motivations of anti-vaccination liars and I wonder if you wouldn't mind answering some questions:
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:05:27 -0700
From: JOE HARRIS'
Subject: Peter this is what people think of you that have children like yours
Still your friend, Just don't understand you Remember me mentioning a new way to do multi dose vacc's without presevitives you never got in touch with me if you care so much about the children of africa you have a strange way of showing it.
Your friend in christ
PS. write back soon !
Joe -------------------------- TX
Please remember this guy over sees a 18 million dollar Bill Gates hookworm vaccine grant.
He is totally in bed with Pharma.
One of his PR interviews he talks about how he courted Pharma for checks to develop his vaccine. God bless his daughter, I guess rather than a shot at recovery she will be a (Pharma) trust kid to the likes of Leona Helmsley's dog.
I'll never understand why parents wouldn't at least try for recovery or improvement, but to deny someone else the shot at uncovering core issues HHS concede cause Autism is heinous in my book.
The CDC pulls Hortez out as needed. He was the speaker at the closed door press conference before the DC rally a few years back.
My question is this to the media, if he swears up and down vaccines had nothing to do with his daughter's Autism then prove it. Submit her shot lots, porphyrin levels and metabolic results and measles titers for public review. Before you exploit your own child and mislead thousands of others.
As we are often scrutinized for making assumptions. Peter Hortez should not be trusted on his word alone - bring data.
Right now it is proven that Thimerosal and other toxins do provoke developmental neuro-damage as per the manufacturers safety data sheet. That is a fact.
I am saddened that some people will even exploit their Autistic kids for money.
I hope and pray he will come to his senses and consider his daughter before the almighty Pharma dollar.
Mom to Joshua, who had 276X the EPA allowable amount of Mercury in his infant vaccines.
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:17:24 -0800
From: Tam erica
Subject: It takes a fool to fool a fool...
Wow! What a wonderful anti-vaccination site this is!! Now Im even more sure of the choice I made NOT to vaccinate my precious, healthy children that God has blessed me with.
When I was twelve years old, I stood in a line, in the hallway of my school with all 48 of my classmates. I was waiting for my turn to have several needles, all connected in a circle, injected into my arm all at once. I bare the scar from it to this day as a reminder. When I think back about that day now, as a 41 year old, I see it from a ceiling view and it makes me think of the Pink Floyd video where the children are lined up and marched into the meat grinder. "All and all, we're all just bricks in the wall"...... and im nothing to the government. Well, except for maybe a test subject. We'll always be good for that, as long as we accept it. I wish my mom would have stopped it from happening to me. I wish I would have listened to the child voice in me, as I stood waiting in that line, that said, "this is strange.. this is wrong.", and stepped out of that line and said, "I have rights and it will be a cold day in hell before you inject me!". But, I was only a child and didnt know I had rights..... and my parents were out to lunch.
My children attend public school in Indiana and they "tryed" to trick me into thinking that I had to have them vaccinated. Thank the good Lord that I knew better. And I cant believe the amount of people who told me I was wrong because they had believed the lie and were pressured into having their children vaccinated by the schools, until I proved them wrong by sending my unvaccinated child to school by signing a paper saying that I didnt agree with vaccinations for both medical and religious reasons. Unfortunately, it was too late for my best friends little girl, who was developing normally until her first vaccines at age two, now she has slight autism. She didnt want to vaccinate her but didnt believe me that she didnt have to in order to enroll her in pre-school. Now she has guilt that haunts her.
I didnt plan on typing past my first two sentences because I agree on one thing with "what's his name" that runs this site....... no sense in talking to fools.(unless you're after easy prey) Guess I got carried away. Have a great day and God bless us all even though we dont deserve it.
From: Paul Sintra
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:51:57 -0800
"This is as much a form of abuse as beating them or having sex with them. Perhaps more, because bashers and sexual predators usually don't publicly boast about the fact and show photographs to strangers in order to progress their perverted agendas"
Were you molested as a child?
Go here to see what this is about.
Subject: Boyd Haley
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:48:53 -0500
How many autistic children do you have?
None, but I have a very close relative who has Asperger's Syndrome.
Did you note when the symptoms of Autism occurred?
It wasn't diagnosed precisely for a year or so, but one of the nurses noted the way the baby attended to stimuli immediately after birth, so that's when the signs first appeared. Let's say at five minutes old.
I notice that you refer to Dr. Haley and others as "anti-vaccination" liars...which of course screams "agenda" within your own articles.
Why? They lie so they are liars. It's quite simple if you understand how English works.
I'm pretty sure (having an Autistic son and following this whole "theory" very closely) that none of them have espoused getting rid of vaccines, but rather eliminating Thimerasol as the preservative.
You haven't been paying attention, have you? Why do they oppose MMR, which has never contained thimerosal? Why do they oppose all the vaccines which no longer contain thimerosal? The only answer I can think of is that they hate children and want to see them dead or maimed.
I'm not a Bio chemist, but you engage in the same "wow them with technical speak" B.S. that you accuse Dr. Haley and others of engaging in. Let me see…you use the Helicopter pilot analogy to as a way to demonstrate what you believe is an idiotic response. How about this…"Mercury is only one of 23 atoms in the Thimerasol compound." My reply…who gives a shit…can you tell me what happens to that Mercury atom after my son's body breaks down the Thimerasol? No?
Yes. When the thimerosal breaks down, one of the products is ethyl mercury which leaves the body in the urine and stools. The mercury goes with it. Liars will try to tell you that thimerosal breaks down to methyl mercury or that ethyl and methyl mercury have the same effect on the body, but they would be lying. After all, lying is what they do.
Let me guess, you're not a doctor but a blogger…you have a really impressive degree in "blogging".
You don't have to guess, because it is stated quite clearly on my web site. You are not the first person claiming the ability to research facts who can't even find out the simplest things about me and you won't be the last. And by the way, to be a blogger I would need a blog. This site isn't one.
Here's another common response "Billions of vaccines have been given with no ill effect." Again, who cares if hundreds of thousands have had an ill affect? I don't think anyone believes the Thimerasol alone is the culprit…but rather that those who's Autism may have been triggered by it have a genetic disorder where their bodies can not detoxify as effectively.
Yes, that's the lie that had to be invented when the "autism epidemic" didn't go away after the thimerosal was removed from vaccines. It's the lie that had to be invented to dispute the repeated and extensive scientific studies which have shown that there is no connection between thimerosal and autism.
I'm no medical doctor either, but I know that injecting children THE DAY THEY ARE BORN with molecules that contain mercury is…idiotic.
And what vaccines which contain mercury are given to children THE DAY THEY ARE BORN? See the full list of vaccines here. Please be specific.
The final proof in the pudding is that pharmaceuticals "voluntarily" removed Thimerasol. Given that they, much as your "advertising based" blog-site, chase the almighty dollar, why would they remove it if there were no ill effects?
It was done as a public relations exercise because they were being distracted from the task of protecting children by liars telling lies about autism. It made some vaccines more expensive because it meant that they had to be packaged in single-use vials and probably saved the manufacturers some money because they could leave out an ingredient.
Why so coy with the acronym? We're all adults here. I'm not too shy to spell it out and tell you to fuck off yourself, but I don't want you to die.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:10:13 -0800
From: tony Tohnkah
Subject: project ho
Hello Peter, you're not a physician are you? Most Doctors aren't. Anyway, I'd love to attend a speaking engagement in person, do you have any planned? I'd like to hear more about your theories on the benefits of forced vaccination, genocide, and soft-kill weapons. Delicious! By the way, whats your favorite Kool-aid flavor? Oh yeah almost forgot...what are your thoughts on population reduction? Its a good thing we fall under the the banner of medicine 'else we'd all be war criminals, right! And thanks to the Pentium pimp we can all afford to get immuno-suppressive therapy...Atta boy Bill and Melinda! Hey mom, fcuk the Sunny D, more dead genetic material please! Keep up the good work Peter, you're a big shiny phallus-like beacon of light for schills everywhere.
Subject: NO FACT NO ARGUMENT
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:34:14 +0200
You have no fact and no argument mentioned in relation to mrs. Rebecca Carley position on vaccination.
YOU HAVE NO FACT, YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT.
Your domainname is Rat in a Bag?
Who do you think is in that Bag?
You mention in an email many adjectives according to you applicable to mrs. Carley?
You ask her to choose some?
You point with your finger to her???!!
At the same time, many more fingers point to yourself!
I tell you: I will not ask you to choose some of these adjectives applicable to YOU, since I do not need your socalled judgment or choice.
I KNOW what is applicable to YOU.
Go and ask for as many vaccinations as you want and think are necessary.
I wish you good luck and you will not have much time to live, since you appear to believe in vaccinations.
Your true cause is a totally different one.
Go on crawling on the ground like a snake.
This is where your like belongs.
Go to the ground.
Go underground where you come from.
Go to the same darkness as is proliferating from your mouth.
Go on producing shit: in the end you will suffocate in your own shit.
You are to be pitied.
You can see what this is about here.
From: "Paolo Just"
Subject: You and Anti Vaccers
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:39:58 +1000
Pardon? If you mean "am I a professional actor?" then the answer is "yes", although I don't see what that has to do with anything.
You have some IT knowledge and some other credentials which are at the very least suspect, yet you seem to know everything about health vaccinations and why you can't access a website.
In what way are my credentials suspect?
You think because you get a 404 message you have been banned, with that sort of paranoia it is a wonder you manage to get through life at all.
Actually, I got a 403 error (access refused because of authentication failure) not 404 (page not found). There is a difference.
If you just did a simple check on Viera Schiebners website you would see that all 3 sites are down, why?
Who knows? Who cares? Perhaps there really is a God.
Simple, the servers that these sites are on are down, and have been down for as far as I am aware a very long time.
They were working on April 4. The fact that they are down now is encouraging, because while these sites are unreachable (for any reason) there is less possibility that parents might see them and be deceived into avoiding vaccination for their children. Put another way, while these sites are off the air children are safer.
I can't even access the site and get the same message as you, so get your facts right before you post your uneducated rubbish.
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:43:32 -0500
I agree with doctor Len Horowitz, Mary Tocco, and other truly concerned doctors and researchers who have nothing to gain except the safety of the public. To inject foreign matter into your blood stream is stupid and against biblical teachings as well. The efficacy Is non existant. Just a way to create commerce for the vaccine manufacturers and pediatricians. Many have been brainwashed by the very people who stand to make money out of this garbage. If it was really safe and effective they would not be trying to mandate it inasmuch as the non vaccinated would be no threat to those who were vaccinated if it was a really effective immunization. It is not. It is just a method of selling snake oil and with bad results in many cases and no proof that it saved anyone from contracting what they were vaccinated against, but plenty of proof that there are adverse reactions to those who have had this garbage injected into themselves. With out knowing the age of Mary Tocco's son I would guess he is a minor based on his response to you. He was antagonized by your calling his mother a liar. You have no proof that what she says is not 100 % correct. You have a belief based on what you were taught and it has been lucrative for you, no doubt but you cannot prove a negative. Who is to say anyone would have contracted a disease had they not been vaccinated. And yet, many who probably would never have contracted the disease come down with it after having been vaccinated. That is sufficient proof that it truly is more of a religion then a scientifically backed fact.
Down with the AMA crime syndicate.
You can see what I had to say about the vile Mary Tocco here.
From: erin phillips
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:21:42 +0800
That is slander and you can get in deep shit for that buddy. How bout you leave Wendy the fuck alone and worry about things you know about rather than babble on about shit you know absolutely nothing about. You are pathetic. Get a life you moron.
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The Wendy mentioned is someone who thought that "LOL" was an appropriate way to talk about how she had abused her child.