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Childhood Shots Vaccine Education – Mary Tocco
Ms Tocco is a proud, professional anti-vaccination liar. She wrote to me. My responses are in italics.
Subject: Your web site
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:47:43 -0800
Your site does more to help the anti vaccine movement than to stop it!
Your questions asked to the anti vaccine people were answered with sound logical answers, but you look like an idiot.
They were answered with the combination of arrogance, bigotry, ignorance and delusion that I have come to expect from anti-vaccination liars. What are your answers to the questions? To make it easy for you, here they are:
1. Of the vaccines in the current schedule, which ones do you believe can safely be given to children?
2. Of the vaccines in the current schedule, which ones do you believe provide protection against disease?
3. If a new vaccine could be produced tomorrow against a fatal or disabling disease, which disease would you like it to prevent?
4. Do you believe that the benefits of any vaccine currently in use outweigh the risks associated with it?
5. What would it take to convince you that the benefits of a vaccine outweigh the risks?
6. I have been told that homeopathy can be used to "reverse vaccine damage". As homeopathy is essentially distilled water, how can this work?
7. AIDS kills millions of people each year, but so far no vaccine has been developed. Do you believe that research into an AIDS vaccine should continue?
8. I have read about a man called Alan Yurko who is in prison in Florida for murdering a child. The evidence against him looks convincing and he has a criminal record for violent crimes. People are saying that the baby died from vaccine damage, not from being shaken. Do you think Alan Yurko is innocent? Why do you think this?
(Yes, I know that Yurko is no longer in Florida and is now in prison in Ohio, but I wanted to leave the questions the same. The fact of the baby's death has not changed.)
9. Dr Andrew Wakefield looked at a small number of autistic children whose parents believed that they had been made autistic by vaccination and found what he believes is a connection between MMR and autism. Very large studies examining the records of millions of children do not suggest any connection other than a coincidence of timing. Could Dr Wakefield be wrong?
10. Of all the vaccines currently given to children, which do you think has saved the most lives?
I have researched vaccines for the last 25 years and vaccines represent an assault on the human immune system...need to be stopped. The American Physicians Association called for a halt on all vaccines in 2000.
I assume that would be the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. Of course AAPS would say that, as Dr Jane Orient is one of the most high-profile anti-vaccination liars. I know that she says that she is in favour of vaccines, but that is only as long as those vaccines are not given to anybody of any age at any time against any disease. If you want to impress me you will have to come up with a real medical association which opposes vaccination, not a pack of loons led by a woman whose grasp of arithmetic and reality is so tenuous that she once told me that an occurrence rate of three in ten thousand is thirty times a rate of one in five thousand.
Apparently, you are fully vaccinated and not thinking sane!
Are you suggesting that vaccination causes insanity? I have never heard that before, but I am not surprised.
You do not show one stitch of proof that these lethal shots are safe or effective.
There is plenty of evidence for safety and you only have to look around at the live children to see that they are effective. I realise that your prejudices prevent you from seeing the truth, but that doesn't stop the truth from existing. Your use of idiotic terms like "lethal shots" just illustrates how out of touch with reality you are.
Your just trying to blast those who think differently than you and you look like a fool.
I have no problem with people who think differently from me. Unless of course that difference leads them to try to talk parents out of caring for their children. When the difference can lead to the deaths of not a few but millions of children then, like all sane people, I have both the right and the duty to "blast" them.
Keep up the good work!!!
Thank you. I intend to do so until the last anti-vaccination liar is poisoned by the last laetrile salesman.
P.S. Those kids with chicken pox look happy and are much healthier now...Congratulations to the parents.
And you know this how? I didn't identify the children on my site, so for all you know they might all be dead by now. This is quite possible, as the parents you congratulate might have been just as pleased if the children caught pertussis, diphtheria or meningococcal disease.
VACCINE RESEARCHER AND LECTURER Helping Parents make fully informed vaccine decisions. MaryTocco Director of Vaccine Research and Education for Michigan Opposing Mandatory Vaccines President of The Autism AutoImmunity Project of Michigan
If autism is an autoimmune disease, how is it caused by vaccinations? If vaccinations wreck the immune system, how can it come back strong enough to attack the body itself? Is autism caused by mercury, as claimed by Professor Boyd Haley, by measles virus entering the gut as claimed by Dr Andrew Wakefield, or by pasteurised milk as stated on Dr Joseph Mercola's web site?
Oh, now I get it. You make your living telling lies about vaccination. How much do you charge to lie to a roomful of parents? Is it a good living?
I especially liked the way that you have declared yourself a "World Class Person". That takes real class to do something like that. The million-plus visitors is also a nice touch, but I can forgive you for that as the truth is not expected from you.
As is my normal policy, your email and my reply will be published on my web site.
From: "curtis tocco"
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:05:50 -0700
Hi, i would like to say that you are the most arrogant son of a bitch i have ever incountered. If you would take the time to RESEARCH vaccinations you would see that they contain nero toxins, thats a FACT not some biased bullshit like what you write. FACT ,The levels of nero toxins in vaccines is 100 to 1000's of times the FDA safety level. FACT, if you put nero toxins in a new born baby who hasnt fully developed his brain SHIT HAPPENS. There in it for the money, they dont care if it hurts people. Also mary tocco is the best vaccination researcher out there, if you visit her website you see that she is not bias in anyway, its documented facts. Now maybe you would like to think that your little world is perfect, but it think its time for a reallity check. Go visit marytocco.com and email me back with these "biased" phrases, i would like to see them.
Thank you for your considered criticism. I can't help noticing that you share a surname with the despicable Mary Tocco. You have my greatest sympathy. If I had a burden like that I would change my name and move to another city.
Another thing – I notice that you mention "nero toxins". Are these like the poison that Agrippina used to kill Claudius so that Nero could become Emperor of Rome in 54AD?
From: "curt tocco"
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:21:54 -0700
Ha ha. Your just some fuckin loser that couldn't sell his shit to tabloids so he fuckin made a website and put respectable people's names on it so he could get in the search engine results. Do yourself and all of us a favor, and the next time your on a bridge or a roof and the thought to jump off comes to your mind DO IT.
Thank you for your comments. They have been passed on to the appropriate person in my organisation so that they can be suitably amused.
I notice that you refer to "respectable people" mentioned on my web site. I hope that you don't include disgusting child-haters like Mary Tocco, because nobody could ever call her "respectable". The word could hardly be applied to someone who makes a living lying to parents and encouraging them to place their children in harm's way. I must reiterate my sympathy with you for sharing part of your name with this disgusting person.
Have a nice day. The thousands of children who die today from vaccine-preventable diseases won't have that opportunity.
From: "curt tocco"
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:49:04 -0700
i dont authorize you to put my email anywhere on any website, that was a personal email.
Yes you did. You sent it to me.
Email republication policy
The policy here is to reproduce any critical emails sent to any email address associated with me or this site, and also to reproduce any critical discussion of me or my activities which I see or become aware of on mailing lists, Usenet newsgroups or any other outlets in any form of media. The solution is simple for anyone who does not want to see their words published here – be quiet.
From: "curt tocco"
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:34:55 -0700
Nope i never agreed to any contract saying that the emails will go on the website
Whether you read the disclaimer or not is irrelevant. The site policy is quite clear, and it has not changed in the six years that the site has been on line.
and by doing so you are commiting acts of plagiarism.
Reproduction of a personal communication is not plagiarism.
In the case that you do this i will contact your webhost and have your website deleted.
Have a nice day. Abubakar Tariq Nadama won't be able to do that, because his mother believed anti-vaccination liars like Mary Tocco and now he's dead.
From: "curt tocco"
Subject: Re: wow
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:44:57 -0700
lol,Well he probably would have died sooner if he had gotten vaccines.
At that point I had to give up. Anyone who can use the abbreviation "LOL", which means "laughing out loud", to express their feelings about a dead child is so deranged that any attempt at conversation could only be seen as teasing someone who should be in a mental hospital receiving treatment.
Curtis Tocco shared the Quote of the Year award in the 2005 Millenium Awards.
I am put straight – Part 1 (25/8/2012)
Jean thinks that I am misinformed about vaccines and the despicable Mary Tocco. She writes using IncrediMail, an echo of what it was like back in the days when people made web sites full of animated images at Geocities. I was disappointed, however, that she chose to write in bright blue 12-point Arial – it would have been much better in bright blue 12-point Comic Sans. You can see the attractive animated GIF in her messages over there on the right.
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:43:32 -0500
I agree with doctor Len Horowitz, Mary Tocco, and other truly concerned doctors and researchers who have nothing to gain except the safety of the public. To inject foreign matter into your blood stream is stupid and against biblical teachings as well. The efficacy Is non existant. Just a way to create commerce for the vaccine manufacturers and pediatricians. Many have been brainwashed by the very people who stand to make money out of this garbage. If it was really safe and effective they would not be trying to mandate it inasmuch as the non vaccinated would be no threat to those who were vaccinated if it was a really effective immunization. It is not. It is just a method of selling snake oil and with bad results in many cases and no proof that it saved anyone from contracting what they were vaccinated against, but plenty of proof that there are adverse reactions to those who have had this garbage injected into themselves. With out knowing the age of Mary Tocco's son I would guess he is a minor based on his response to you. He was antagonized by your calling his mother a liar. You have no proof that what she says is not 100 % correct. You have a belief based on what you were taught and it has been lucrative for you, no doubt but you cannot prove a negative. Who is to say anyone would have contracted a disease had they not been vaccinated. And yet, many who probably would never have contracted the disease come down with it after having been vaccinated. That is sufficient proof that it truly is more of a religion then a scientifically backed fact.
Down with the AMA crime syndicate.
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