"When you have no basis of argument, abuse the plaintiff"
Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)
"Remember that foul words or blows in themselves are no outrage, but your judgment that they are so."
Epictetus (55 - 135)
This site gets a regular trickle of mail with compliments about the site, some suggesting suitable targets (I couldn't find all this stuff myself). All these messages are welcome and appreciated, but I don't see any reason to publish them. Of course, if someone insists that I publish their praise, I will be forced to agree. I did, however, promise to publish criticism. Not all of it expresses hatred, but "hate mail" is the generic Internet term for this sort of correspondence.
I have some pages which contain collections of mail on certain topics or from regular correspondents:
I have created a separate page for the stream of comments I received after this site was discovered by some people opposed to vaccination.
The 99 names of …
Canadian Cancer Research Group
Mr William P O'Neill of the Canadian Cancer Research Group did not like me ...
The Gutless Anonymous Liar
Here's some correspondence from something which is so brave and so sure of what it has to say that it has to post from an anonymiser service to hide its tracks.
Australian Council Against Health Fraud
The Australian Council Against Health Fraud has its own job to do, so the staff there have outsourced the job of handling hate mail. As the ACAHF office is on the campus of Northmead Technology Park, it made sense to give the job to the highly-experienced staff on the Millenium Project desk at Ratbag Castle.
(The ACAHF was retired in July 2011).
Quintessence of the Loon
When I finally retired the Quintessence of the Loon site in 2020 I kept the mail that had been sent to the site during the five years of its life.
Some people don't just write. They make web sites about me, and you can see these at the Tribute Sites and Awards page.
A couple of matters about this site seem to be confusing people. The first is that the content of this site is opinion. It is my opinion, and if it does not match yours then that is too bad. Some people seem to be very frightened by my opinions, although I cannot understand why this should be so. If they have businesses or beliefs which are threatened by what I say on a web site which attracts a number of visitors each month which is only a minute proportion of the hundreds of millions of Internet users, then perhaps they need to think about how strong those businesses and beliefs are. The second matter is that, because this site is an expression of my opinions, I will publish opposing opinions. From the first day this site appeared it has contained a statement that any criticism may be published here. It is not my problem if people (some claiming extensive and sophisticated research skills) have missed the warning. It was there, and the choice to write was always (and will remain) up to the writer. If you want privacy, don't write.
Two days before the relaunch of this site in march 2019, the mail started to trickle in. I decided that the hate mail collection needed a fresh start too.
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:32:16 +1000
Your email address says a lot about your character. It displays utter contempt for your audience, and I guess it's well justified. After all, if you are conscious that you write rubbish, and they aren't ... .
I came across your page while looking up Archie Kalokerinos. A great Aussie doctor, who you describe in terms that reflects more on your state of mind than his character. Either your thinking is seriously corrupted or you're forced to write crap because you can't get an honest job that pays the bills. Either way, dig yourself out of that rut you're living in and break free for your own sake.
Thank you for your kind words. We take all criticism seriously around here as we have a policy of continuous improvement so we welcome being told where we have gone wrong.
This is not such a case. Dr Kalokerinos was seriously mad and a danger to children anywhere, or do you agree with his claims that the WHO and Save The Children are engaging in a deliberate policy of genocide and "Put Hitler and Stalin in the shade"? Do you agree with his practice of withholding vaccines from indigenous children, thus increasing the infant mortality that he pretended to care about? How about his idea that all ambulances should be fitted with IV Vitamin C equipment (provided by him, of course) as the first (and maybe only) line of all emergency medicine?
You can see an obituary for Dr Archie Kalokerinos here.
Subject: RE: Funny
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 12:25:55 +1000
I'm glad to hear you take all criticism seriously, because it is important to do so for our own benefit.
To answer your question, I know Dr Kalokerinos isn't mad, and I do agree that many of the grand institutions we've held in high esteem are currently working in coordination toward a depopulation agenda that is implied in UN Agenda 21, ...
And you can stop right there. The red flag of Agenda 21 means that the remaining 913 words of the email need not be read as they will almost certainly contain conspiracies and other meaningless drivel.
From: Sales HealthShopCY
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 15:53:18 +0300
Subject: Most ignoars website I seen in ages
Hello nameless person
you make the other DEBUNKERS look like rose baby bunnies
Thank you. I strive to be the best at what I do.
LOL I laugh so much at ignorance on the highest level .
Thank you so much for showing me that facts can be totally ignored IF one wants to be " a academic person " .... basically you got complexes for failing in academia and now you try to cling on by regurgitating other BS
I'm not "a academic person" and I never failed "in academia" because I never worked there. I was, however, successful in my academic studies.
Ohh and Kalokerinos , I mean you are the dirtiest slimy little fuck on the web .... 4 sure .
I think I will have that compliment printed on a t-shirt.
Thousands were saved by him , they made him a "this is my life" .... he had 2 adopted Indigenous Kids .... He was THE ONLY WHITE person to be accepted by them
Perhaps this is the time and place to mention Gough Whitlam, who was very much accepted by indigenous people. And he was just one of those who were.
He showed how Pedo Australia runs it all & how they got rid of them .
Oh he even stood up to cops selling Booze to them .
Ahhhh you are th eleast of the least in kingdom
DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU ANYTHING ELSE
Your faceless garbage just cost me 15 minutes
I'm faceless? I can see my face in a mirror. Of course, if I were a vampire ... By the way, you didn't tell me your name.
COWARD YOU ARE AS WELL ! I'd bitch slap you for days for slandering Kalokerinos the bravest man in Australia!
And now that he's among the deadest children are a lot safer.
You a BITCH .... 10 000 will agree
This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual www.healthshopcy.com to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of HealthShoCY . If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Thank you for your comments. Suggestions and criticisms are always welcome here, even if they can be ignored as yours will be.
By the way, as you sell colloidal silver along with other useless and even dangerous quack products you site has been added to the Health Fraud collection here.
And it continues.
From: Sales HealthShopCY
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 23:23:23 +0300
Subject: Re: Most ignoars website I seen in ages
I was looking for a honest critical review on the Scenar .....
Print a T Shirt
I made a Website .... slandered a Dr who saved 10 000's with no proof but tons of ignorance .... & I don't give a fuck
Wear it !
I give you credits for responding but I would suggest to look at the .. little long ... interviews Kalokerinos gave in a 10 part series .
Look at a man who devoted his life to helping , go check if the witnesses exist & if they stood by him ... do some research .
when you slander off dead people ... you like the guys who claim Michael Jackson rapped them .... years & years they said no he didn't touch them in ANY way ... then he dies & they all over him changing their stories 10 times .... not taking it to a criminal court ( where they denied it previously ) no just trying to get paid on dead people back ...... ; )
Unless you get paid for this then I pissing against the wind anyway
I don't think I'll bother responding.
Discovered in Facebook Messenger in July 2019 (it was originally posted on March 18), something from the famous Jack Shitman (never Jack Shulman™).
You're single minded, Peter. Obsessed with bashing people you believe you disagree with. Do you actually believe the Millennium Project and Ratbags somehow improves your image or serves some goal of vengeance against people? It piques my curiosity. Or is it that your mind can't survive without publishing obsessioned harassment of people publicaly to invalidate them for having beliefs you believe should be condemned publicly. It's gotten you in legal trouble before. What makes you believe it won't again. You consider yourself an expert. In what? Using SpyBot? I'm curious about what motivates you. In my 50 years in Comp Sci related work, I have only found two people as persistently abusive of others as you, you being one of them. More of a gadfly than anything. Rather than snapping back how about a rational explanation for what drives you. I don't always disagree with your opinions. But I'm curious about how now, 25 years after, you're still using the Web to soap box your criticisms of others accompanied by abuse. Care to actually explain your self? What happened to you in life that drove you to this?
Just curious, not for publication...
Not for publication? Jack doesn't understand the rules around here.
This one from Blake Rooney had lain hidden since October 2018. Succinct. I like succinct. If it had come by email I would have asked Blake if it was his email signature.
A fan of Dead Hulda was displeased.
From: Jesus Christ Let Go Let God
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 06:39:08 -0400
Subject: You are an ASSHOLE you know, right?
You would be a proctologist – stick your own finger up your aaa buddy.
Dr. Hulda Clarke was not a quack. She would've destroyed the 600 billion dollar bullshit drug industry. Actually heal people and you know it's TRUE
You do realise that Hulda Clark (for that is how she spelled it) died of cancer, don't you? She couldn't even cure herself, let alone threaten the incomes of real doctors who might know something about cancer.
Why is it that nobody will answer my question about the disposal of her carcass? She was cremated and her ashes scattered in the Pacific Ocean. Did her family get EPA approval for dumping toxic waste before they fed the crumbling remains of the charlatan to the fishes?
From: Jesus Christ Let Go Let God
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 09:37:07 -0400
Subject: Re: You are an ASSHOLE you know, right?
Ratbag shows your mentality – soooo gives you away of the kind of spirit you have anyway
From: Jesus Christ Let Go Let God
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 09:28:12 -0400
Subject: Re: You are an ASSHOLE you know, right?
Dick head it's parasitic. You are a dumb ass though, because you believe all you've been TRAINED to believe asshole instead of following your own inner wisdom and holistic medicine. You're stupid not to get education from countries where the pharmaceutical industry hasn't tampered with using money and incentives to coax money hungry assholes into prescriptions that just don't work. Wake up asshole
Ding! I've got mail. (15/2/2020)
People confusing two organisations with the same acronym reminded me of the academic chemist who claimed that methyl- and ethyl- compounds could be treated as having identical chemical properties because the names rhyme.
From: Liz Kanan <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 18:41:35 -0500
Subject: Re Boyd Haley
I just ran across a rather scathing article you wrote about Dr Boyd
Haley. I was wondering what your background is?
My background is set out on the About page of this site, but it would be churlish of me to use that old saying from quackworld "Do your research". It is also relevant here that I studied chemistry in high school.
I have high levels of heavy metal toxicity and off the chart values of Gadolinium.
How were you exposed to this metal? I had a compound of it pumped into me for MRI examination of a broken ankle, but otherwise it's a bit difficult to be exposed to. Where are these charts that show normal levels, and who did the measuring? Please don't say Doctors Data, because those crooks just make stuff up.
I have genetic variations called MTHFR and COMT.
Everyone has MTHFR and COMT, so you need to specify which genetic variations you have. There are many and they can result in all sorts of things (including nothing at all). What effects did you have that caused concern? Anencephaly? Opioid addiction?
The MTHFR especially affects how I detox environmental toxins.
Which "toxins" are these?
So there is a certain percentage of people who cannot detox naturally even the smallest amounts of mercury, lead, contrasts etc…
Did you have kidney or liver failure? These are the ways that "toxins" usually get eliminated naturally from the body.
I had my 5 amalgams safely removed with a biological dentist last August.
You have my deepest sympathy that you undertook these needless procedures. You were deceived and robbed.
Since then with diet and chelation drugs I am slowly feeling better. There is no way I would even consider vaccines.
Why not? Do they all contain these toxic "heavy metals"?
The FDA allows small amounts of Mercury.
In which vaccines? Please be specific, with links to the manufacturers' product information. I've mentioned Doctors Data who managed to find "mercury" in vaccines where no compound of mercury was used in any part of the manufacturing process, but lying is what liars do.
For a certain percentage of people this small amount is dangerous. All of this is compounded by all our processed foods, chemicals in household products, etc…
Life is a dangerous thing, isn't it?
Dr Haley isn't wrong. Someday it will become evident.
Dr Haley is extremely wrong and all anyone has to do to demonstrate this is to read a high school chemistry text book. How he held the university job he did is a condemnation of the hiring practices of the institution.
The postman knocked (18/4/2020)
Sounds reminiscent of Morris dancing erupted from my computer speakers as the postman knocked to tell me that there was mail waiting to be read. It mentioned Dr Boyd Haley, a professional academic chemist who had forgotten the basics of organic chemistry.
Subject: Bunch of shit.
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:14:34 -0400/p>
You're a proctologist. That's hilarious! You must have looked at too many assholes, you've turned into one.
Thank you for your comments. We welcome constructive criticism here as we have a program of continuous improvement. You comment has been passed to HR for inclusion in future staff training sessions.
Verbal diarrhea pouring out of your mouth on your Dr. Boyd Haley bullshit article.
"Dr. Boyd Haley bullshit". You got that part right, because that perfectly describes the nonsense he says about mercury.
You're insane if you don't think mercury is causing global neurological problems.
Really? Could I have more details of this phenomenon, please. Are you sure it's not fluoride in the water or aluminium in the chemtrails?
Look up mercury elixirs or "quick silver" given in the 1800's in every single MDs office for everyone that walked through the door.
"1800s" does not require an apostrophe, but "MD's" does. Sorry to be pedantic.
As the MD degree was very uncommon in the 19th century I assume you are using it just to mean someone qualified to practise medicine. It doesn't. I can excuse your ignorance about this as you also seem to think that Boyd Haley (PhD, not MD) has anything worthwhile to say.
I agree that the 1800s didn't represent the height of medical knowledge. After all, that century saw the spread of the ridiculous absurdities of homeopathy and chiropractic.
A disaster that almost took the medical establishment down. They covered that up so deep, it was a heinous mistake that destroyed many peoples lives.
If it was so covered up, how is that you know about it? As your research skills don't seem to extend to identifying Boyd Haley's lack of knowledge of basic chemistry or the meaning of academic postnominals I'm a bit surprised that you were able to uncover this great conspiracy.
How about spreading the word about the mercury entrenched in bigPharm, the biggest bunch of ratbag money hungry "good 'ol boys" that ever walked the planet? Don't you think people realize that?
Where is the mercury "entrenched" in today's pharmaceutical industry? It's gone from vaccines, it's hard to find mercurochrome antiseptic these days and you don't even see it in thermometers. I know it's still used in homeopathy but that's not anything to do with medicine.
Sorry to be pedantic again, but the apostrophe indicating elision of a letter in "old boys" should follow the "l", not precede the "o". It's "ol' boys".
But my real doctor can make me better, even without using mercury.
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Replied to from Pegasus Mail.
From: Jennifer Schiel
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 07:37:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Bunch of shit
Get your facts straight. Ignorance is not worth arguing with.
Yet I continue to do it. One day I'll learn not to, but life would be much less fun then.
You are ignorant and a nit picker as most a-holes usually are.
I actually appreciate it when people fill holes in my ignorance or correct mistakes I've made. Unfortunately you seem to take polite correction of solecisms badly. Sad, that.
Good luck. I'm not wasting one more second of my time.
A wise decision. People who rely on medical advice from know-nothings like Boyd Haley have fewer seconds of life left to waste than the rest of us.